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Replacing Lies with God's Truth with Tara Fuller Episode 77
In this episode, I talk with Tara Fuller as she shares with me a moment from her life that used to clouted with shame, but is now counted as joy.
Tara is an elementary teacher, a wonderful mother of two, and my friend.
In this episode, she opens up about her early struggles with identity, anxiety, and depression, culminating in a life-altering suicide attempt in 2015. She shares how seeking approval from God, rather than others, and the unwavering support from her husband, Kenny, were instrumental in her recovery. Tara's journey showcases the resilience that can emerge from the darkest times, providing hope and encouragement for anyone facing similar battles.
Tara offers invaluable advice for overcoming mental health struggles, emphasizing the importance of Christian therapy and the practice of EMDR to process trauma.
Join us for this heartfelt episode, as we explore the significance of keeping God's word close so that we can remember to replace the lies of the enemy with God's truth.
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In today's episode I'll be talking with Tara Fuller hey guys, I'm here yeah, She is a teacher at Swartzs Upper Elementary and she is also a wonderful mother of two. And you know she's just a good friend that I I've had for like a really long time, but we've just recently reconnected because of my podcast which is super cool. She just reached out to me through instagram, so if you're one of those people who want to know more about me, just hit me up on instagram or facebook or wherever, because I will respond. I'm really glad you did that, Tara. It's really cool to know that we have small circle of friends, mutual friends, that we didn't know. So, yeah, so it's really good just to reconnect with you and see kind of where you're at in life right now. So, yeah, all right. Well, you have quite the story for us today, and so where would you like to start? Where does your story begin?
Tara Fuller:Oh, okay, well, I have been a Christian since I was 12 years old, and while I say a Christian, but I was not, the Lord was not my Lord and Savior at that time, like I knew that he died on the cross for me, but that was pretty much the gist of it. I was not living for Him. I was not, you know, daily praying to Him. I wasn't diving in His word. I didn't have, you know, that personal relationship that I should have with Him. Yeah, and I was just very confused as a young kid. So, you know, just being the kid that wants to fit in, that was me. That was definitely always me.
Tara Fuller:So I got into some things that I shouldn't have got into. You know, starting in High School, I felt like my identity was in getting people to like me, getting my parents to notice me. A lot of my identity was in sports. At that time I was just wanting everyone's approval instead of the Main Man's approval, which I should have been searching for the whole time. And so fall of two years ago is when my life really transitioned. But I'm going to backtrack a little bit, okay. So around the time you met me, when did it wait me? Like it was 20, isn't it no before 2020.
Brandy Bostick:No, no, no, it was way before then. It was like 2015. Yeah, 2014, 2015.
Tara Fuller:I think you met me after, like all the things that happened.
Brandy Bostick:No, I think. I met you before because I met you in Northeast Baptist.
Tara Fuller:Okay, yeah, yeah, all right. So March, the 28th of 2015, used to be literally a day that I would just want to crawl in a hole and not even think about, and the Lord has just really transformed my mind of it being the worst day ever to being the day that I'm literally the most thankful for and I look forward to, and I remember all God's done and that purpose. So, long story short, I was in a very dark place from a really early childhood.
Tara Fuller:I was the kid that always kind of just held in all my feelings and tried to make people laugh and, you know, kill all the elephants in the room and I just tucked it all away and bottled it all away and it eventually caught up with me and I was facing a lot of anxiety and depression and I didn't even really know what those feelings were.
Tara Fuller:At such a young age like to be able to identify them and, you know, try to get help with them. And so I went and got on some medicine. I went to the doctor because I knew I wasn't like feeling right but all in all, like I just was not myself and I was not living for the Lord, and I got to a point where I tried to take my own life. And by the grace of God, I'm a miracle and I'm able to sit here and tell that story right now. So, yeah, it was just a really rough time in my life. But I just look back on that time and I was in the hospital for a long time, you know the recovery was rough.
Brandy Bostick:Yeah, I remember hearing about it because I was no longer at Northeast Baptist, I was already at a different school, but I had friends obviously still there and had mentioned about it and I was like, and I was just like what, what happened?
Tara Fuller:Like you, just don't ever know what somebody's going through either, Because, like I was, I've always been a very joyful, like you know.
Tara Fuller:Yeah, like you're a really fun person, Like that was my thoughts of you and you know, it just really has opened my eyes and just the whole perspective of like seeing people like hey, they have a smile on their face, but are they really like, okay, yeah, and that was me, you know, for a long time, yeah, and I just did not feel worthy of love and afterwards I definitely was feeling all the shame and like the label of, you know, the crazy girl that tried to kill herself, like that was my label, that the enemy, like, placed in my head for years and I literally didn't stay isolated for years because of that man. I'm just thankful for the Lord's restoration and transformation because I know for a fact, if He wouldn't have got a hold of my heart, that I wouldn't be sitting here today sharing that. But it took a lot of stubborn hard-headedness to get there, but we are here.
Brandy Bostick:Yeah, yeah, because I know you and Kenny were together, because when I met you you guys were already y'all been together for a while. So were y'all married then or engaged?
Tara Fuller:No, we had actually we've been together like around 10 years together, married for five, but at this time we had been together for about a year, okay this dude is a saint.
Tara Fuller:Okay, let me tell you, because this happened to me like in our first year of dating and he has just stuck by my side through every bit of it, just looking back. Like you know his family and I don't blame them, but like everybody was pushing him away to like leave me. And I've always struggled with people leaving me, especially like close family members and stuff just let me down and I did not expect him to stay. And he, here we are, like with the most beautiful two kids, yeah, and like when I tell you I'm happily married, like I'm happily married but it's because of the restoration of the Lord in our marriage. He has really truly done a number in that too.
Brandy Bostick:So yeah, so with your injuries and whatnot. How long were you in the hospital?
Tara Fuller:I was. So I was in LSU Shreveport for probably almost two months and then they moved me to Glenwood (West Monroe) into the third floor it's like a recovery floor, and I did therapy and stuff and I was in there for a good month almost. Then I was in like another year almost year and a half of just hardcore therapy. Yeah, and it was a struggle. Like I still daily struggle with chronic nerve pain from the suicide attempt. But I also like I had to change my perspective of just like okay, am I going to live every day in pain and just like be mad at the world, or am I going to let this be my reminder that this is like God keeping me here and Jesus endured like so much more pain than that on the cross and all that shame and all the unworthiness that I was carrying, like He already carried that for me. And so you just have to like change, change your whole perspective of things. Yeah.
Brandy Bostick:Yeah, wow. So like when things happened, who found you?
Tara Fuller:Okay, so this is how God is just literally in every puzzle piece of the story. So I was, you know, not in a good place and I was psychotic, and I was driving in my car about to take my own life and I pull over into a church parking lot. Wow yeah, like if that isn't screaming like the Lord was just there the whole time. And so Kenny was actually there whenever I tried to attempt suicide and it was rough, like for a long time. I mean, he didn't know if I was going to make it or what was going to happen, so it was a like for a long time. I mean, he didn't know if I was going to make it or what was going to happen, so it was a rough deal.
Tara Fuller:And then I had, you know, some of my family that didn't want to believe that their daughter or, you know, their niece, you know their niece or granddaughter was capable of doing this to herself. So they wanted to, like, point fingers elsewhere and he was just catching all the the hard things and doing it by himself. So I tell you he's a good man, he really is. I'm just thankful. So yeah.
Brandy Bostick:So what were some things that helped you like, turn it around, like I said, like you've been able to reframe it and, you know, say, hey, I'm not going to look at it in that negative way. I'm looking at it away as like why God's keeping me here. So what are some other things that kind of helped you to push on?
Tara Fuller:Well, Brandy, I would love to say that, like, ok, the day I woke up in the hospital, I was so grateful and I turned my life around, but it definitely didn't happen that fast. It it took a lot of like hard years of. I was literally depressed after I like woke up in the hospital because I was in so much pain, and then I had this label me of the girl that tried to kill herself, and so that was my identity, that was my new identity, and I went from like having a lot of friends to not having any friends, having like good family and friends relationships, and just to nothing. And so me and my husband eventually, about five years in our relationships, about four years after this, we did get married, and not long after we got married, um, I got pregnant with my little girl, and that was when the Lord really started just like tugging on my heart, absolutely tugging on it, and, gosh, she just changed my life. She really did.
Tara Fuller:I knew the Lord was speaking to me and He was like you've got to get in church. And then my in-laws they are literally just the most Godly people I know and just the Lord placed them in my life, exactly, knew what I needed as parents, and they're just so good and gracious and they stayed on me and my husband like constantly, by going to church, getting plugged in. They're like you need to get in a life group here. These people are going to be your best friends and they're going to be your people and we're just like, oh dude, like I wish they would just leave us alone and now, like I would just hug their neck every day. I'm like, thank you, like I have, and now I just hug their neck every day.
Tara Fuller:I'm like, thank you, like I have the best community, because y'all didn't give up on us and so, anyway, having my little girl in 2019 really gave me that push, and so I kind of we kind of just took a step back from our at the time like normal life, which was not of the Lord, and we just got to talking and we're like we need to give our kids like a foundation of the Lord. And we just got to talking and we're like we need to give our kids like a foundation of the Lord, but we don't really know how to do that because neither one of us had walked through that, and so I was just praying about one day. I was like Lord, I'm letting go of all of this, like I'm giving you control, but you know, like I'm a people person and I have to have people.
Brandy Bostick:Yeah.
Tara Fuller:And so like I need you to send me my people. Yeah, this is what I'm supposed to do. And it was just so cool because she texted me today. She was like I'm ready for you, you got this, like we talk all the time. But my friend Bethany, she sent me a Facebook message that day. I was just like okay, Lord. It's like okay, Lord, just slap me in the face with the answer, because that's literally what it was. He was truly talking to me that day and she invited me to the Life Group.
Tara Fuller:And on that next Sunday, me and Kenny, my husband, walked into the Life Group and Hallie Dye was teaching and I just could not like zone out. I was just zoned in with every word that she was speaking. She was just so full of wisdom, good stuff, with every word that she was speaking. She's just so full of wisdom, good stuff. And then there was other girls and couples that came that same day like, for the first time, the life group, which is, oh, wow, really odd yeah so now it's just insane, the community that the Lord has brought to me, but that's like not really where I surrendered.
Tara Fuller:That was just kind of like where God got me in the door. Yeah, yeah, I went on. We were going to life group for probably like a year, year and a half and my husband and my father-in-law and my brother-in-law all decided to go on a men's retreat. Me and my husband had like not the best relationship, but we knew we needed Jesus. That's where we were at this time.
Tara Fuller:Yeah, and he went on his retreat and he came back, like literally, when I tell you, a changed man, like my husband has been a changed man since that retreat and so I was just like, hey, I don't know what y'all be doing on these retreats, but I got to know. And so my hard-headed self, like at the time I was just found out, I was pregnant with my second, my little boy, and I was just like I'm gonna wait till after I have him. Well, the Lord's timing is just so cool because, like, looking back, like I signed up to go on my retreat fall of 2022 and that's just where, like, my heart was just completely transformed and I fully surrendered my life to Christ. And, looking back, there were so many, uh like so many, so much, so many of the women in my community that I just like gained in the last year and a half that don't even normally do retreats, but they went on that retreat because they knew like I needed poured into, yeah. And now that I'm plugging the retreats, I'm like y'all didn't even normally do retreats, but they went on that retreat because they knew like I needed poured into.
Tara Fuller:Yeah. And now that I'm plugging the retreats, I'm like y'all didn't even do retreats, y'all just like sign up because y'all were like loving on me how cool is that? And so I just saw the love of Jesus and so clearly, and I have never felt that like I'm getting chill.
Tara Fuller:I'm just talking about it because like it's just so cool and full circle, like how I feel like the Lord has positioned me now to try to do the same for other women. You know, yeah, but like before then I was just really shameful of my past and I didn't feel worthy of love. Like I said in the past, like love was kind of connected with things or things held over my head. So I never fully understood love, and especially God's love. But man, like when you completely understand, like I will never understand completely, but His love is just so much different than any kind of human love you could have here on Earth. Yeah, and so on the retreat found, like true freedom, I really did. There was just a lot of lies that the enemy had told me my whole life and I can like backtrack now from going to therapy and I'm like, oh my gosh, I believed all these lies. What were some of those lies? You know that I just like wasn't enough. Um, I was unlovable.
Tara Fuller:I just always had fear of like some somebody I loved leaving me you know yeah that was just always a big fear because it happened like pretty regularly in my childhood and I don't know like we could have a whole another episode, but like I truly learned how to replace those lies with God's truth and then, like most, importantly, like being able to identify the enemy in those situations.
Tara Fuller:Yeah, like no, this is a lie in my head from the enemy and this is not the truth. This is not truth and I'm going to replace this lie with God's truth. So I realized God's love is like far greater than any other and I started asking myself, like, what does God want for me? Yeah, and then I quickly realized he wanted me to be unified, because I already knew that, because he was giving me community. And then, you know, unity is like part of our mission too, and but it's also like a huge blessing and so, like God wants us to be joyful, you know, and I say that.
Tara Fuller:But like, obviously, John 16: 33, "we will have trouble, you know we will have trials, and it's just one of those things. There's no better trial to walk through having and knowing god's fighting it with you. Oh, yeah, and the battle was definitely already won when Jesus carried that cross for each of us. Yeah, and they bring growth. We've had a really hard year, like our family has, but, man, I am one of those. I'm like I'm going to see the good in this situation. I'm going to see the God. Yeah, the good and the God in this whole last year of our life and some other things we've been going through is just man, my spiritual life and my prayer life not just individually but in my marriage has strategically just exploded like a firework. It's just been so cool to see both of me and my husband like just branch out and then like so y'all pray together regularly every night.
Brandy Bostick:That's really cool, because not every couple does that.
Tara Fuller:Yeah, even believing couples you know, like that's really cool and it takes like truly being intentional, but we have little sponges at home and we are trying to-
Brandy Bostick:Yes, yes, because first I was like little sponges at home and we're trying to, you know, you mean like your kids. Yes, yes, because first I was like little sponges.
Tara Fuller:They are, and Kennly is like a legit sponge she just soaks it all up and it's just no.
Tara Fuller:That's one thing that I would say like, if you are a parent to young kids, pray with your kids and pray like as a family. Yeah, we've been like I would love to say I've been doing this. Kennly's almost five years old. I've been doing this every night since she's five, but that is a lot. We've been intentionally like doing that for probably like the last 10 months and my little four-year-old can like spit out a such a mature prayer. Yeah, and I'm like she is out, like out of the mouth of babies, like but it's just so good and like Cage is only two. But he, you know, give his little dear lord, thank you for my family. Amen, you know, but they do, they soak it in and yeah, and like just the thought of, I have never heard anybody in my family pray.
Tara Fuller:And my kids are going to know that.
Brandy Bostick:Yeah, that's big, that's awesome yeah.
Tara Fuller:We're definitely trying to break some curses, but it's one of those things that you have to be like truly intentional about.
Brandy Bostick:It's not about being perfect, it's about being just trying every day, oh yeah.
Tara Fuller:Like I couldn't eat a Mother's Day card and it was like I love my mom because she admits when she messes up.
Brandy Bostick:I was like, yeah, I do that a lot, but that's really great. You know, because you know I have to say I messed up a lot.
Tara Fuller:But you know, as Christians, like we do Like in the body of Christ, like we're not perfect but, yes, obviously, like our end goal is to try to be as much like Jesus as we can be. But I think it's really important and I didn't hear that enough growing up as a kid. Like, hey, I messed up, yeah, but I love you and I'm always going to be here for you and that's what I want you to know.
Brandy Bostick:Yeah, because that way she knows that her relationship with you is not based off her performance. Yes, absolutely. Just like our relationship with God is not based off our performance either. Yeah, you know it's a relational thing. So that's awesome. That's really great Good stuff. It's really good Tara.
Tara Fuller:Yeah, you know, and like God, He definitely we are the minority, like us Christians, we really are, and He calls us to be different. So we, I had to learn that, like, just looking back on my adolescent years, I was living in the world obviously, my adolescent years was living in the world obviously, and, or you know, I was living of the world and I should have been living in the world for Jesus, not of the world and of the world does. And so He calls us to like set apart and I was. I'm kind of a nerd here.
Tara Fuller:So I like to look up words, and the word holiness means to be set apart, and it's part of our mission to also, and also like part of our blessing, to be set apart, and I'm pretty sure Brother Bill preached on that about a month ago and I was like, oh my gosh, like this is the best you know outlook on this.
Tara Fuller:It really is. And, as my girl, Hallie, I would say, we must definitely die to self every single day. And that's just another thing that like sticks in my head because, you know, if you want to be intentional, you definitely have to die to self. And then you want to follow, like God's two greatest commandments of you know love your Lord, god, with all your heart, yeah, and then love his people as he loves his people Definitely have God himself a lot of days.
Tara Fuller:Yeah. Sometimes, multiple times in the day. But by doing that we have to daily surrender. You know and testify of God's love and mercy. For what?
Tara Fuller:He's done in our own life and I think, whenever I like, the more that my heart transitioned and aligned with God, the more like that shame and that embarrassment was lifted and it was just like no, Tara, your story is not an embarrassing story. Like you are not the crazy girl that tried to, you know, kill herself. The God had a purpose and a plan this whole time and there's other people out there that struggling with like some of the same things and your purpose is to share your story. If you don't know anything else about me share what you know I've done for you, yeah.
Tara Fuller:And so that was me for like a solid you know year after my surrender, because I was just trying to dive in, you know, learn more and more. But I was like I don't know everything and I I never will, probably, but I definitely won't ever know everything, but I just know. I'm like I can tell people what Jesus has done for me, yeah, yeah. And so I don't know, I just think of, like how He gave us like those fruits of the spirit and just like what a gift they are. And that's another thing I think about. Like with my little girl, I'm like everyone we have to do our fruits of the Spirit, and that's another thing that I've gotten from my community. Like Bethany Wilson is big on fruits of the Spirit, so I was looking up putting on your armor in Ephesians 6. I was like you definitely need to do that. Then I was like, okay, fruits of the Spirit, my kid definitely needs some self-control, so let's just go over these all of them.
Brandy Bostick:I think it's cool how you're mentioning that because, like I know, I know that you also know Lindsey Stagg and so I. A long time ago 2009, yes, 2009, like that's when I first met her uh, we were counselors at the first. We're the OGs staff at Seeker Springs and she has shared one times because we would have like bible studies like daily or weekly during that summer, and she shared once like how, like if she didn't know what to study, like didn't have like a thing to study, she just kind of would go back to like the fruits of the spirit and just kind of meditate on one of those. So I think it's really cool.
Tara Fuller:You just brought that up, yeah, well, and like I'm just telling you, in the last two years of just being a teacher, I have a fruits of the spirit listed on on my board and all the kids. They're like Mrs. Fuller, are we going to say a fruits of the spirit today? I'm like you, bet we are. We're going to remember, remember all of them, right? Yeah, self control, yes, yes, so good. Yeah, my kids are probably like singing it, right?
Brandy Bostick:Now I still have to do it in my head to like to name them all, that's exactly what you mean.
Tara Fuller:Can't be like. No, you can't just sing them, you have to sing them.
Brandy Bostick:I'm like okay, okay good stuff, good stuff, oh man. Well, you know we talked to and I feel like we got a clue of some scriptures, but is there any other particular scriptures? You're like man, like this has been my rock and something that's really been a lot to you.
Tara Fuller:Yes, whenever I knew I was going to have to answer that question, I was just like man. I can narrow it down to probably three, but my all time just verse that I even teach my kids is Exodus 14: 14, that God will fight for you. Just be still man. It's just so cool to know that like God is our defender and like we don't have to do anything but just truly just turn to him. Yeah, and then Psalms 23 we went to if gathering. Well, we went last year.
Tara Fuller:This past year I went virtually yeah, two years ago it was on Psalms 23 and it was wrecked my heart, and then put it all back together and I think it's the last verse, like surely your goodness and mercy will follow me all the days. And then, obviously, like I love Red Rocks worship, and in the song Good Plans, it's just screaming that too, and I'm just like, okay, lord, I hear you talking to me. Surely your goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life. So, yeah, I guess I'm going to have to narrow it down to three.
Tara Fuller:So Exodus 14: 14, Psalms, all of Psalms 23, but especially the last one, yeah. And then John 16: 33 says I have told you these things so that in me you may have peace In this world. You will have trouble, but take heart, I've overcome the world. This world, you will have trouble, but take heart, I've overcome the world. And that word peace just when you have anxiety or you're like me and you have anxiety and you're listening, you go look up some scripture that has the word peace in it and the Lord will instill that peace in you. There is a lot of scriptures I could just like spit out that have the word peace in them, and that was my word last year, like pick a word at the end of the year.
Brandy Bostick:Just pick a word.
Tara Fuller:Yeah Well, you don't pick it. You ask the Lord to pick it. Yes, yes but he has a sense of humor, so just get ready.
Brandy Bostick:And it'll just keep popping up yes, yeah, absolutely.
Tara Fuller:Yeah, but I'm just like Lord. I knew I wasn't going to have a peaceful year last year and it was just crazy how he gave me that word and then validated it with all of his truth, you know. So, yeah, it was just good, good stuff, but yeah.
Brandy Bostick:I'm so glad. I also feel like this is, I would say, ironic. But it's really not. It's like a God thing, because, you know, some of the things you mentioned today are some things like I just been kind of mulling over in my own head for myself, just things like you know you're talking about like taking off that shame and embarrassment, because that is so, because things that I've been thinking on that little, that theme in general, for people it's just like that's just not of the Lord, like like if you're, if you're a person, that's just like dealing with that or, you know, struggling with that. Just know that that's not Jesus, that's not from the Lord, because he never wants this, that's just not what he does. You know he draws this to us, you know from his kindness and his love and it's there to accept. So true, you just got to grab it and accept it for yourself.
Tara Fuller:But that's not what he does. Just no, whatever too. Like, yeah, you try to like dive deep into, like, well, what is god's character? Yeah, that's really like whenever you start to realize, okay, these things that I'm hearing in my mind they're not of the lord. Yeah, this is of the enemy. Yeah, I need to replace that with truth and with God's truth. Well, and how do you do that? Number one you dive into his word. Number two you surround yourself with good, godly people that will do that for you when you're struggling.
Tara Fuller:I still have days where I'm like, okay, I have a little ride or die group chat and I'm like, hey, guys, I'm struggling today. This is what I'm struggling with. I need y'all to pray and like, have those prayer warrior friends that will literally flood you back with like an essay text, like that's a prayer. Yeah, and be that person for somebody else too. Yeah, yeah, and I've really, in the last five years of my life, you know, the Lord has blessed me with that, but for a long time I was, I was yearning for that. Yeah, and there's just nothing like having good, godly people to pour into you. Yeah, you know, especially like everybody's going to stumble, everybody's going to struggle. Some days you know you're going to be on a roller coaster and you've got to have somebody to help bounce you back to God's truth.
Brandy Bostick:Man, this was such a good conversation. Yeah, man, this was such a good conversation. Yeah, it really is. Like I wish you guys could see her right now, like you just are, like you're exuding joy, like I don't know what you were. You know what. What was five, ten years ago? Yes, it's been almost a decade.
Tara Fuller:Yeah, that's what I was telling you march 20, 2015 so it'll be 10 years next March and I just remember coming up on that date and hating that date. And now I'm just like this is the day that the Lord transformed my life and kept me here and I'm truly thankful for that. Yeah, it's just so good. There's no shame behind it, it's all Jesus.
Brandy Bostick:But, man, guys, I wish you just could see Tara right now. I was like, whoever she was 10 years ago, that is definitely not her, and who she is, you can definitely see how the Lord has transformed her life and how that peace and joy is definitely a part of who you are now. It's awesome, that's awesome. Last question is like if anyone was, you know, really struggling or having similar thoughts, what would you tell them? What?
Tara Fuller:would you tell you 10 years ago. Okay, so Tara's been living in therapy for the last two and a half years and if you have not got a good Christian therapist, send me a DM and I will tell you the best. So she has truly, like, helped me and taught me EMDR, which is like processing all the hard trauma, and whenever you have that spiritual truth to replace those lies with EMDR is just truly a game changer. So I had to just throw that plug in there. Oh yeah, but what would I tell somebody that was suffering from like depression or suicidal thoughts or even anxiety? Number one, most importantly, importantly, keep god's word tucked close into your heart to renew your mind and then, like I said earlier, like seek those godly friends that will love and pour truth into you. And if you don't have a godly friend, you look up tara fuller on facebook and you send her a message and she will speak truth into you.
Tara Fuller:that's awesome yes, because I want to be your friend, I want to be everybody's friend and then just you know, like I was just talking about, seek christian counseling and keep that daily relationship with god. I don't know how y'all are, but I love a good like worship jam sesh, like we be jamming in the car all the time.
Tara Fuller:If y'all see a girl with no hands on the steering wheel and arms up like y'all just honk at me and I'll get one hand back. It's probably me, and just like reading his word. But, like I said earlier, like you have to be able to identify the enemy, yeah, because he truly comes to steal, kill and destroy, and that's what he wants to do, and you have to replace it with God's truth and um truly focus on god's character so, yeah, awesome, yeah, awesome.
Brandy Bostick:Well, thank you for sharing, tara. This is, this is great, this is good.
Tara Fuller:I appreciate you having me. This is just. This has been. It's been great, all right.
Brandy Bostick:So my name is tara fuller and this is my story of the middle and and I'm your host, Brandi Bostic You've been listening to the Up and Up podcast. If you'd like some merch or here's some extra content, just check out my Patreon account in the show notes below All right.
Tara Fuller:Psalms 40, verse two. He brought me up from a desolate pit, out of the muddy clay, and set my feet on the rock, making my steps secure.